Agenda and minutes
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EMERGENCY EVACUATION PROCEDURE The Chair will ask the Committee Administrator to draw attention to the emergency evacuation procedure as set out under Note 8. Minutes: The Democratic Services Officer read out the procedure. |
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APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE AND SUBSTITUTIONS Minutes: Apologies were received from Wendy Weston. |
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DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST At this point in the meeting declarations of interest are received from Members in any of the agenda items under consideration at the meeting. Members are asked to complete the green interest forms circulated to groups in their pre-meetings (which will be announced at the Council Meeting) to indicate: (a) The agenda item number in which they have an interest to declare. (b) The nature of their interest. (c) Whether their interest is a disclosable pecuniary interest or an other interest, (as defined in Part 2, A and B of the Code of Conduct and Rules for Registration of Interests) Any Member who needs to clarify any matters relating to the declaration of interests is recommended to seek advice from the Council’s Monitoring Officer or a member of his staff before the meeting to expedite dealing with the item during the meeting. Minutes: Ann Berresford declared an interest in relation to agenda item 49 as a board member of Triodos Renewables plc, a company engaged in the renewable energy sector.
The Chair declared an interest in relation to agenda item 49 as an employee of the National Environment Research Council.
Councillor Charles Gerrish declared an interest in agenda item 49 as an investor in Bath and West Community Energy. |
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TO ANNOUNCE ANY URGENT BUSINESS AGREED BY THE CHAIR Minutes: There was none. |
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ITEMS FROM THE PUBLIC - TO RECEIVE DEPUTATIONS, STATEMENTS, PETITIONS OR QUESTIONS Minutes: A statement was read by Mr Richard Lawrence, a member of the Fund and a local resident, and his colleagues from Fossil Free Bristol, urging the Fund to disinvest from fossil fuels.
The Chair thanked them for their statement and said that in his view this was a significant issue, which the new Committee should consider carefully. He believed that the issue of fossil fuels differed from that of tobacco in relation to the Fund’s fiduciary duty, because of the long-term (25-30 year) uncertainties about the future of the fossil fuel industry and of the continuing value of investments in it. This was, however, an issue for the new Committee.
The Head of Business, Finance and Pensions said that officers would consider how the issue could be taken forward with the new Committee. He did think, however, that the timescale suggested for disinvestment was rather ambitious, since it was not only an issue about direct investment, but also of indirect investment, since so many industries depended on the use of fossil fuels to produce their products.
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A copy of the statement is attached as an appendix. PDF 199 KB |
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ITEMS FROM COUNCILLORS AND CO-OPTED AND ADDED MEMBERS To deal with any petitions or questions from Councillors and where appropriate co-opted and added members.
Minutes: There were none. |
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MINUTES: 12TH DECEMBER 2014 PDF 75 KB Minutes: These were approved as a correct record and signed by the Chair.
Matters arising
Previous minute 9: a Member asked for an update on Curo. The Investments Manager replied that Curo were taking no action at present because low bond yields meant the cost of the liabilities had risen.
Previous minute 43: Richard Orton said that he had made a statement about the Pensions Board to Council, as he had been advised to do, but unfortunately the Council had not taken his advice. He believed that the person specification issued for prospective members of the Board were outside the spirit of the Regulations, if not of their letter. The draft Regulations had required that people had to have capacity and relevant experience to be appointed a member of a Pensions Board. This was not the case in the final Regulations, but was included in the person specification issued by the Council. He suggested this might be taken to indicate an intention to exclude potential key members. He found it disappointing that the Council had not responded when this was pointed out.
The Head of Business Finance and Pensions agreed that the Regulations had changed. However, he suggested that relevant experience would enable the Board to become fully functional sooner than if its members had to go through a long learning curve with a lot of training. |
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Additional documents: Minutes: Mr Morris presented the report. He said that the audit plan set out the significant risks that the External Auditors would be addressing in the audit and their understanding of the challenges, opportunities and further developments facing the Fund. Significant and other risks were set on agenda pages 23-25. The results of interim work were set out on pages 26-27.
[Shirley Marsh arrived at this point.]
RESOLVED to note the audit plan for the accounts for the year ended 31 March 2015.
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UPDATE OF REGULATIONS, CODES OF PRACTICE AFFECTING LFPS & GMP RECONCILIATION PDF 48 KB Additional documents:
Minutes: The Technical and Compliance Manager presented the report. He reminded members that the main Regulations for the new LGPS scheme had been issued last year. Subsequent key developments:
He said that training sessions were being held for staff.
He drew attention to his response to the DCLG on the Draft LGPS (Amendment) Regulations 2014 in Appendix 2 to the report.
A member expressed concern about the impact of the new rules on pensions’ flexibility. It was suggested that the Fund should not be seen to be giving members guidance or advice whether or not to take their pensions elsewhere. The Chair suggested that all communications about flexibility to members should make it clear that the Fund was not advising them to transfer out.
A Member suggested that those transferring out of the Fund should be required to sign a document stating that they accepted the full responsibility for doing so. Another Member informed the Committee that an industry-standard certificate for this purpose had been proposed at a recent meeting he had attended. Members supported this idea.
The Head of Business Finance and Pensions noted that the average pension from the Fund was £4,000, meaning many pensions were even less, and members might be tempted to take risks with what seemed to be a small amount of money. A Member said that members might not be aware of the transaction costs of transferring out of the Fund.
A Member asked about the impact of flexibility on the Fund’s cashflow and liabilities as a whole. The Investments Manager said that officers intended to do some work on this. At this stage she felt the number of members transferring out might not be as great as some feared.
RESOLVED:
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ADMINISTRATION STRATEGY PDF 41 KB Additional documents: Minutes: The Head of Business, Finance and Pensions presented the report. He said that this was a revision of the Strategy approved by the Committee in 2011. It included a more detailed ICT strategy and revisions to ensure that the requirements of the Pensions Regulator are properly addressed. The Communications Policy Statement had been included, to reflect the fact that more complex issues had to be communicated to members and that there was more electronic communication. Since 2011 the aspiration had been to digitise more and more administrative transactions. There had been a great deal of progress in this, and now the aim was to achieve a step change, so that communication between employers and the Fund took place predominantly by electronic means. A significant sum in the Budget and Service Plan was earmarked for this.
A Member asked whether bespoke or off-the-shelf software would be the best option for the Fund. The Head of Business, Finance and Pensions replied that the Fund had a long-standing relationship with a particular software supplier, who were beginning to focus on developing their products. Officers of the Fund had had discussions with them about their direction of travel. They had at first suggested working with them through a users’ forum, but now they were willing to engage in partnership working with one or two Funds. This would give the Fund the opportunity to input and encourage them to deliver what the Fund wanted. This would be better than buying off the shelf; in fact, there were few alternative suppliers.
A Member asked about the role of the Pensions Board. The Head of Business, Finance and Pensions replied that the requirements of the Pensions Regulator had an impact on administration. The Pensions Board is limited to monitoring compliance with the requirements of the Pensions Regulator, and references to the Board in the Administration Strategy should be understood in this light.
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BUDGET AND SERVICE PLAN 2015/18 PDF 35 KB Additional documents: Minutes: The Head of Business, Finance and Pensions presented the report. He said that the Fund had an opportunity for a step change in service delivery. Savings had been made over the past couple of years, which had been reinvested in technology. It was expected that further savings would be generated. Membership had increased by 20% over the last four years and the number of employers in the Fund was 199, compared with 66 in 2006. There had been an increase in the number of employers requiring help and support. The Academies, in particular, were struggling with pensions issues. Logistics required a change in the way the Fund operated. Hopefully technology would allow more resources to be put at the front end.
The Chair expressed concern that big investments in IT might be wasted, should there be a move to merging local government pension funds. He also wondered whether Academies were being charged an appropriate fee for the extra costs they imposed on the Fund. He asked whether they were charged an admission fee when they joined the Fund. The Head of Business, Finance and Pensions responded that Academies were being charged where possible for the costs they imposed and were already charged a fee when they joined the Fund. A lot of officers’ time was spent talking to Academies and explaining to them what their obligations were. As far as IT investment was concerned, local authority pension funds differed very much in the progress they had made. The Avon Fund was a leader and other funds were trying to catch up. Merged funds would still have to deal with a dominant IT supplier, who would be unwilling to suffer a fall in revenue; they might well raise their prices in response to a reduction in the number of customers. If the Fund chose not to invest in IT, it would be difficult to maintain administration standards and there could a risk of incurring fines by the Pensions Regulator.
[Councillor Lisa Brett arrived at this point.]
RESOLVED to approve the 3-year Service Plan and Budget for 2015-18 for the Avon Pension Fund.
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TREASURY MANAGEMENT POLICY PDF 35 KB Additional documents: Minutes: The Finance & Systems Manager (Pensions) presented the report. He invited the Committee to approve the new policy and said that the only difference from the existing policy was that the use of banks outside the UK will now be permitted. This change had been made in response to the withdrawal by Barclays of their Platinum Call account. There was no equivalent alternative offered by UK banks without increasing limits on existing UK banks. The current credit ratings and investment limits requirements would apply to any non-UK bank. He said that the bank that would be used was in Bath, but its headquarters was in Sweden (which currently does not use the Euro).
Members suggested that banks in the Eurozone should be removed from the counterparties list. A member asked whether the credit ratings for these banks were reliable. Officers said that they would report back to the Chair and Vice-Chair about this.
RESOLVED to approve the Treasury Management Policy as set out in Appendix 1, subject to a report to the Chair and Vice-Chair on the credit ratings of Eurozone banks. |
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DISCRETIONS AND DELEGATIONS PDF 45 KB Additional documents:
Minutes: The Technical and Compliance Manager presented the report. Appendix 1 explained the change in procedure required when entering into an admission agreement, and Appendix 2 updated the list of discretions delegated to officers.
A Member asked whether the guarantees for admitted bodies were secure. The Investments Manager explained that the regulations now required that newly-admitted bodies had to have either a guarantee from their parent organisation or a bond. The Fund’s previous practice had been to require a guarantee, with the parent organisation being liable for all outstanding costs at the expiry of their contract. This was the best security available. Bonds, on the other hand, would not always cover the full deficit and other pension liabilities arising when an organisation was wound up.
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SCHEME EMPLOYERS AND ADMISSION BODIES UPDATE PDF 40 KB Additional documents:
Minutes: The Investments Manager presented the report. She said this was an update on action to mitigate employer risk.
Before discussing Exempt Appendices 1 and 2 the Committee passed the following resolution:
The Committee, having been satisfied that the public interest would be better served by not disclosing relevant information, and in accordance with the provisions of Section 100(A)(4) of the Local Government Act 1972, RESOLVES that the public shall be excluded from the meeting for the following item(s) of business because of the likely disclosure of exempt information as defined in paragraph 3 of Part 1 of Schedule 12A of the Act as amended.
RESOLVED to note the information in the report.
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REPORT ON INVESTMENT PANEL ACTIVITY PDF 40 KB Additional documents:
Minutes: The Assistant Investments Manager presented the report. He said there were three matters to note:
RESOLVED to note:
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REVIEW OF INVESTMENT PERFORMANCE FOR QUARTER ENDING 31 DECEMBER 2014 PDF 78 KB Additional documents: Minutes: The Assistant Investments Manager presented the report. The highlights were:
Mr Finch commented on the JLT report. He said that the Fund had performed better than the LGPS as a whole. He drew attention to the figures for bond yields on agenda page 182 and said that a 1% decline in bond yields increased liabilities by 20%. CPI was c. 0%, which was a positive factor. It was expected that US interest rates would start to rise later in the year. 11 of Fund’s managers had outperformed in the latest quarter and over the year, and 14 had outperformed over three years. The issue about the measurement of Partners’ returns by WM was being investigated by officers.
Members noted that as JLT’s contract was not being renewed, this would be the last time Mr Finch would attend a meeting of the Committee. They thanked him and asked him to communicate their thanks to his colleague Mr Sheth for the support they had given them over the past few years.
RESOLVED to note the information set out in the report. |
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LOCAL AUTHORITY PENSION FUND FORUM ENGAGEMENT REPORT 4TH QUARTER 2014 PDF 42 KB Additional documents: Minutes: The Investment Manager presented the report. She drew attention to the highlights of the LAPFF report given in paragraph 4.5 of the covering report.
RESOLVED to note the LAPFF Quarterly Engagement Report.
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Minutes: The Finance & Systems Manager (Pensions) presented the finance report. The headlines were:
The Pensions Benefit Manager presented the performance report. The highlights were:
A member asked if checks were made to ascertain that pensioners of the Fund resident overseas were still living. This was important, because it could be difficult to recover money from other jurisdictions. The Pensions Benefit Manager replied that payments overseas were made through Western Union, who carried out such checks on the Fund’s behalf.
RESOLVED to note:
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LGPS COST CAP MECHANISM PDF 37 KB Additional documents: Minutes: The Investment Manager presented the report, which she said was intended to make Members aware of what was a very complicated process. There would be two mechanisms in England and Wales to ensure that the reforms to the LGPS would be affordable and sustainable: the employer cost cap process operated by HM Treasury, and the future service cost process operated by the LGPS Scheme Advisory Board. Local funds would have no discretion over these processes. The Fund’s actuary, Mercer, would give the Committee a more detailed briefing at a future meeting.
A Member said these proposals provided an even greater incentive for the Fund to reduce costs. The Investments Manager responded that these proposals would only take future costs into account, not existing deficits. The Shadow Board was doing a project on how to manage deficits.
The Chair said that it had been argued in a recent edition of “File on 4” that merging local government funds would allow a significant reduction in costs by reducing payments to investment managers. Whether this was the case had to be looked at very carefully, but he thought it was a stronger argument for mergers than one based on administrative cost savings.
RESOLVED to note the information in the report. |
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INVESTMENT AND ACTUARIAL ADVISORY CONTRACTS PDF 33 KB Additional documents:
Minutes: RESOLVED to note:
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Minutes: RESOLVED to note the workplans. |