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Energy Efficiency & Renewable Energy Guidance for Listed Buildings and Undesignated Historic Buildings
Meeting: 11/09/2013 - Cabinet (Item 60)
To report on progress of the implementation of the Sustainable Construction & Retrofitting SPD
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Additional documents:
- Appx A The Guidance, item 60 PDF 1 MB
- Appx B Equality Impact Assessment, item 60 PDF 169 KB
- Appx C Consultation Summary, item 60 PDF 498 KB
- Webcast for Energy Efficiency & Renewable Energy Guidance for Listed Buildings and Undesignated Historic Buildings
Minutes:
Councillor Charles Gerrish in an ad hoc statement asked, in the light of comments made by the PDS Panel, whether lessons should be learned from other places (eg Dublin, Edinburgh).
Councillor Sarah Bevan in an ad hoc statement asked for a further report to be considered by Cabinet on the subject of wind turbines and solar panels.
Caroline Kay (Chief Executive, Bath Preservation Trust) in an ad hoc statement [a copy of which is attached to these Minutes as Appendix 4 and on the Council’s website] welcomed the report. She asked for pilot projects to be undertaken in some of its own listed properties, which would demonstrate that the Council was leading the way.
Peter Andrews (Trustee and Energy Group Convenor, Transition Bath) in an ad hoc statement [a copy of which is attached to these Minutes as Appendix 5 and on the Council’s website] regretted that the report had been removed from the February 2012 agenda but was pleased that it was now being addressed. He emphasised that listed buildings should be seen as places to live and work; not as museum pieces. He urged the Cabinet to adopt the recommendations.
Richard James (Head of Asset Management, Curo) in an ad hoc statement read for him by Councillor David Martin [a copy of which is attached to these Minutes as Appendix 6 and on the Council’s website] supported the recommendations in the report and committed Curo to engage with the Council to find solutions for maintenance and refurbishment works to benefit residents and the environment.
Councillor David Martin in an ad hoc statement [a copy of which is attached to these Minutes as Appendix 7 and on the Council’s website] acknowledged the fact that the Council’s ability to be permissive was constrained by national legislation. He therefore welcomed the intention to work with other local authorities and stakeholders such as Curo and the National Trust. He felt that the report was practical and constructive.
Councillor Tim Ball thanked those who had contributed to the preparation of the report and to the debate. He agreed with Councillor Charles Gerrish that much could be learned from other cities.
In response to the proposal put by Councillor Sarah Bevan, he said that there were no plans to introduce a renewable energy report because of the lack of officer resources. He thanked Caroline Kay for her comments and explained to Peter Andrews that the original report had been pulled in 2012 because the proposals did not go far enough at the time; this had now been put right in the current report. He recognised the need to bear in mind the legal constraints.
Councillor Ball explained that he would be moving a proposal which was different from the officer recommendations in the report. He explained the reasons for this. He moved the amended proposals.
Councillor David Dixon seconded the proposal. He reported a recent experience in a business in Bath which was too hot in the summer and too cold in the winter. ... view the full minutes text for item 60
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Meeting: 10/09/2013 - Planning, Transport and Environment Policy Development and Scrutiny Panel (Item 24)
A Supplementary Planning Document for Sustainable Construction and Retrofitting was adopted by the Cabinet on 13 February 2013. The Cabinet agreed to support the future adoption of local Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy Guidance for listed buildings in the next 6 months, following a review of the draft document. The Guidance is now being brought forward to the Cabinet for final adoption, and the Cabinet member with responsibility for Homes and Planning has requested that the document be considered by the Panel.
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Additional documents:
- Appdx1, item 24 PDF 71 KB
- AppdxA, item 24 PDF 1 MB
- AppdxB, item 24 PDF 163 KB
- AppdxC, item 24 PDF 350 KB
Minutes:
The Cabinet Member for Homes & Planning, Councillor Tim Ball introduced the item to the Panel. He explained that he was seeking their advice on the matter prior to the Cabinet making a decision on 11th September. He also placed before them two additional recommendations;
(i) To test the balance between sustainability and the conservation agenda by looking at pilot projects especially in the Council’s property portfolio and in association with Curo and other partnerships to prove the capacity of Bath and North East Somerset to demonstrate exemplar projects in a World Heritage Site.
(ii) A further report to come to the Cabinet and this Panel in one years’ time to report on progress.
The Historic Environment Team Leader added that conservation lies at the heart of sustainability and that he felt that the additional recommendations were very positive. He also said that significant discussions had been held in the past with Curo and that he would be happy to work with them on future projects.
Councillor Will Sandry commented that he did not think it was too far-fetched to suggest that Listed Buildings should be allowed to have double glazing.
Councillor David Martin, the Member Champion for Climate Change asked the Cabinet to look carefully at the measures that can be implemented and called for them to be as wide reaching as possible. He added that he would like to seek a change in national guidance through work with the National Trust and English Heritage. He stated that he welcomed both of the additional recommendations.
Councillor Lisa Brett asked if anybody could confirm if York had given permission for its Listed Buildings with timber framed windows to be replaced with double glazing.
The Historic Environment Team Leader replied that he would find it difficult to believe that they would have made a block decision on such a matter. He added that historic buildings needed to breathe. He also reminded the Panel of the work carried out at St. John’s Hospital which involved the replacing of around 147 windows following incorrect mouldings and proportions from work carried out in the 1980s.
Councillor Douglas Nicol commented that he had met with Curo recently and was confident that they would like to be involved in this work area.
Councillor Liz Richardson suggested that if the guidance was to be modified in the future then conservation areas should become included.
Peter Andrews, Transition Bath addressed the Panel. He said that he had been asked to be part of a similar project several years ago and had thought that an SPD had been agreed but when the documentation was finally produced it had been heavily edited. He stated that felt around 400 – 500 jobs could be created through retro-fitting.
He said that he applauded the existence of the current document as the buildings concerned should be considered as places to live and work, not museums.
He agreed strongly with the part of the Cabinet recommendation that states to ‘Progress the work through the ... view the full minutes text for item 24
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