Agenda and draft minutes

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197.

WELCOME AND INTRODUCTIONS

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The Chair welcomed everyone to the meeting.

 

Note: Councillor Treby (Vice Chair) chaired the meeting.

 

198.

EMERGENCY EVACUATION PROCEDURE

The Chair will draw attention to the emergency evacuation procedure as set out under Note 6.

 

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The Chair drew attention to the emergency evacuation procedure.

 

199.

APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE AND SUBSTITUTIONS

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There were none

200.

DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

At this point in the meeting declarations of interest are received from Members in any of the agenda items under consideration at the meeting. Members are asked to indicate:

 

(a) The agenda item number in which they have an interest to declare.

(b) The nature of their interest.

(c) Whether their interest is a disclosable pecuniary interest or an other interest, (as defined in Part 4.4 Appendix B of the Code of Conduct and Rules for Registration of Interests)

 

Any Member who needs to clarify any matters relating to the declaration of interests is recommended to seek advice from the Council’s Monitoring Officeror a member of his staff before the meeting to expedite dealing with the item during the meeting.

 

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There were none.

201.

TO ANNOUNCE ANY URGENT BUSINESS AGREED BY THE CHAIRMAN

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There was none.

202.

ITEMS FROM THE PUBLIC OR COUNCILLORS - TO RECEIVE STATEMENTS, PETITIONS OR QUESTIONS RELATING TO THE BUSINESS OF THIS MEETING

At the time of publication no notifications had been received.

 

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Councillor Joanna Wright made a statement on the following:

 

·  Council Tax Support Scheme software – Councillor Wright asked that the Panel supports this request. Councillor Elliott, Cabinet Member for Resources confirmed that the software could be purchased. Councillor Treby noted that an item on the scheme is scheduled for the July meeting of the Panel.

·  ‘Debate not Hate’ – Councillor Wright asked the Panel to request a cross-party working group and take up the matter of what and when a review will be carried out.

The Panel agreed that this be added as a future agenda item on the Panel workplan

 

203.

MINUTES pdf icon PDF 150 KB

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The Panel confirmed the minutes of the previous meeting as a true record and they were duly signed by the Chair.

204.

Cabinet Member update

The Cabinet Member will update the Panel on any relevant issues. Panel members may ask questions on the update provided.

 

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The Cabinet Member for Resources, Councillor Elliott, updated the Panel on the replacement of the Household Support Fund with the Crisis and Resilience Fund (CRF) resulting in a funding reduction and a national rule change prohibiting blanket free (holiday) school meal vouchers after summer 2026. There will be transitional arrangements to avoid a “cliff edge”, using part of the new CRF for Easter, May half?term and summer 2026. There will be a detailed report to the Panel in May 2026.

Panel members asked the following questions:

Councillor Blackburn asked what percentage of the 1.9m budget was used for the meal scheme? The officer reported that this was just under 42%.”

Councillor Simon asked that the Citizens Advice Bureau be consulted, given that the HSF funds fuel vouchers. The Cabinet Member agreed.

The Chair thanked the Cabinet Member.

 

205.

AI Update (in response to Council Motion)

The Panel are asked to discuss the next steps regarding a Council motion agreed on 20th November 2025 regarding AI policies.

 

The Council motion requested that ‘…this issue be referred to the Corporate Policy Development and Scrutiny Panel to review current operational AI practices & policies and consider whether a comprehensive AI policy (strategic & operational) should be developed and, if so, recommend what factors it should address’.

 

https://democracy.bathnes.gov.uk/mgAi.aspx?ID=35768

 

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Councillor Mark Elliott, Cabinet Member for Resources, introduced the item.

 

Panel members raised the following points and asked the following questions:

Councillor Bridge asked if we are monitoring the cost of AI (licenses etc) and value for money. The officer explained that we track usage and efficiency, though not netted against staffing reductions.

Councillor Bridge asked if we keep a register of where AI is being used. The officer explained that we do, but we do not manually review every prompt.

Councillor Bridge asked if we are surveying staff about AI impacts on job satisfaction. The officer stated that yes—examples from social care show improved experience with Magic Notes. He added that staff are not forced to use AI.

Councillor Hounsell asked who would be responsible for checking and monitoring the ethical dimension. The officer explained that the Executive Director of Resources has responsibility and that there is an AI Ethics Committee—the membership is expanding and the terms of reference are in development. He added that transparency is intended—an external AI usage report will be published.

Councillor Blackburn raised concerns about the accuracy of multiple AI notetakers. The officer stated that accuracy varies by tool.  Monitoring is done through Heads of Service and use of templates, configuration and training.

Councillor David stated that she would welcome further information on governance procedures and an annual AI Update. The officer stated that the policy review is due in June and an update can be reported to this Panel in July/August.

Councillor Blackburn raised issues regarding Councillor access to AI tools. The officer stated that online licences can be provided. The Cabinet Member stated that he supported Councillors being considered as a cohort.

In response to a query from Councillor Blackburn regarding usage, the officer explained that some outside tools are blocked as they have to meet our policy and standards.

Councillor David asked how environmental issues are taken into account. The officer explained that the AI review includes information on this including information on carbon neutral/negative companies.

Councillor Treby asked about Agentic AI and whether the policy would be updated in this respect. The officer confirmed that this is not currently being used within the council.

Councillor Treby asked about the governance arrangements for the use of AI, in particular HR due to the potential impact of AI on our people. The officer confirmed that the usage is reviewed by the IT Steering Board that he chairs, and HR is represented.

 

The use of AI to analyse submissions was discussed, the officer explained that we must always be clear and transparent about this.

The Panel noted the update and agreed to include future reporting within the workplan.

 

206.

Quarter 3 Budget Monitoring Report pdf icon PDF 95 KB

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Councillor Mark Elliott, Cabinet Member for Resources introduced the item.

 

Panel members raised the following points and asked the following questions:

Councillor Hounsell asked about staffing pressures across waste, fleet, legal and project delivery and asked what this meant. The Cabinet Member explained that this meant the use of temporary staff where recruitment has been difficult.

Councillor David asked about nature of the £1m disputed invoices with the ICB. The Cabinet Member explained that it is not definite that they will all be written off. He explained that the invoices were raised via joint work with other Councils on packages of care. Not all invoices have been paid, and the balance is now in dispute with the ICB. He added that there are now more robust systems in place.

Councillor Blackburn asked what is meant by increased income from network and traffic management. The Cabinet Member stated that he would come back with the detail on this.

 

Councillor Blackburn asked about the regeneration shortfall and an update on Bath South Quays. The Cabinet Member stated that Councillor Roper could provide detail as the portfolio holder.

 

Councillor Blackburn asked for clarification on the significant drift from the £4.5m savings planned regarding the ‘Being Our Best’ Programme. The Officer (151) stated that he could provide a full reconciliation. The Cabinet Member acknowledged that the savings were lower than expected; that process prioritised fair job evaluation over savings and that 60% of the workforce received a pay rise.

The Chair thanked the Cabinet Member and officers

 

 

207.

Corporate Strategy Performance pdf icon PDF 111 KB

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Councillor Mark Elliott, Cabinet Member for Resources introduced the item.

 

Panel members raised the following points and asked the following questions:

 

Councillor Blackburn asked about renewable energy installation and if we are on track for 2030? The Cabinet Member stated that an update will be provided.

Councillor David asked that where indicators are consistently on target, do the targets tighten automatically. The Cabinet Member stated that targets can be reviewed and adjusted and that this could be brought back to the Panel.

Councillor Treby asked about the impact of the Local Outcomes Framework.
The Cabinet Member stated that significant changes are expected and that this will be brought back to the Panel.

Councillor Blackburn asked for an update on progress toward ‘good jobs’ commitments. The Cabinet Member stated that the portfolio holder (Economic Development) can provide an update.

The Chair thanked the Cabinet Member.

208.

Panel Workplan pdf icon PDF 109 KB

This report presents the latest workplan for the Panel. Any suggestions for further items or amendments to the current programme will be logged and scheduled in consultation with the Panel’s Chair and supporting officers.

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The Panel noted the future workplan and the following suggestions:

  • Annual AI Update.
  • Follow?up on (Debate not Hate) Member Safety processes.
  • Local Outcome Framework – new monitoring data
  • Q4 Year End Budget Monitoring
  • Replacement of the Household Support Fund with the Crisis and Resilience Fund (CRF).